Talk:Sponsors

Opinions and quick vote for sponsoring
I really don't mind either with or without sponsors. So you may even decide without me. But if you want, that's my opinion: If we can easily be independent and finance the entire thing through Ortakià and donations then I prefer to have no sponsor. But if the sponsor himself is promoting Free/Open-Source software and maybe in a way also peer-production, then I don't mind at all having this as a partner or even sponsor.

About sponsoring by airlines, I think it's not necessary if we have 2000 € from Alfresco. Do we need more money? As we said before, let's try to stay on a low budget. And big banners and logos everywhere might spoil a bit the flair of the Commons Fest.

So here's my vote.

Alfresco sponsoring: Fine. We might not even need it, but I don't mind at all if they want to sponsor, even with banners, logos, etc. because I like Free Software even in business.

Airlines sponsoring: Not so fine, not so bad, but let's avoid it if possible. Unless they are okay with a simple "Thank you!" on our Supporters web page.

Dimos sponsoring: That's actually not sponsoring, right? That's using the Commons of the City of Heraklion for the advantage and the good of the people of Heraklion... ;) So as we discussed earlier we will mention something like: "Thanks to the City of Heraklion for providing the rooms." Or for whatever they provide. Jann (talk) 03:33, 20 February 2013 (EET)


 * 1Ναι στην Alfresco αλλά με προβολή μόνο στο site στην αφίσσα και στα newsletter.


 * 2 Ναι σε αεροπορική εταιρεία αλλά με ένα απλό ευχαριστούμε στο site.


 * 3 Σε πάγο ο Δήμος μέχρι να μας δείξει οτι όντως σε κάτι μας βοηθάει.


 * Manolis


 * I think I agree with Jann.


 * I'm fine with Alfresco, we have discussed this clearly in the past. But I agree with Manolis that I would not like it to seem as if the sponsor is taking a big role in the organization. So I would prefer any banners in the exhibition to be somewhat discreet, without objecting to them. However, since Manolis doesn't agree and since 2000 is not even a big ammount for them, maybe we can avoid them? Or have just one and discreet? I don't know...


 * About the airlines, I personally thought that the whole deal was to ask for special offers (not 100% sponsoring), maybe in exchange for a mention somewhere on the site or the poster. I don't think we need 100% sponsoring anyway if we get the other money; 2000 is already more than we needed and we have extras from Ortakia as well. So this is what I have agreed to in our discussions about asking airlines. Banners, multiple mentions everywhere, etc, are not so ok for me as well. We don't need to do this.


 * Municipality: What Jann said.


 * Kiagiadakis (talk) 10:32, 20 February 2013 (EET)


 * Looking at the actual cost: Aegean tickets for ATH-HER with return are ~110 € per person (with 50 € of it being tax, damn!!). We need to transport 3? persons I think -> 330 €. This is the ammount that we collected from ortakia. If we organize a second day, maybe we could cover these.
 * Flyers are cheap. I printed 100 monochrome A5 for 5€, which would have been 2.5€ if they were one-sided. If we don't have any money for something more fancy, I think this is fine and I could even donate them (as many as we need), since the ammount is negligible.
 * The only unavoidable cost remaining to consider is the poster, I think. Other expenses (t-shirts, stickers, whatever) can be avoided. Therefore, we don't need to do big favors to multiple sponsors. Kiagiadakis (talk) 10:54, 20 February 2013 (EET)

I agree with reducing the exposure of any sponsors in the festival and I agree that the sponsor should not be seen as someone who is organizing or running the festival, really where did that come from? I, on the other hand, believe that we have in our hands a great event and we should take advantage of our position and get as much money/sponsorships as we can by giving them as little as we can... At the end we can spend a little more on printing 1 nice banner for the festival, on buying 10 Arduinos for the workshop and then donating them to labaki, paying for a last night party at Ortakia for all the participants and volunteers as a thank you, perhaps printing some T-shirts or giveaway Live CDs. My point is that no matter how much money we get I am sure we can find creative ways to spend them, on the other hand we should not get greedy and abuse the purpose of the festival just to make money, so yes we need to find a balance where we all agree on! and again that was the sole purpose of my first email. But I thought we had agreed and it was clear that we were asking Alfresco and the airline companies and for what... but it seems I was wrong as it was not clear to everyone... so again I am noticing that we do have a problem of communication that causes misunderstandings and especially on some sensitive subjects such as this we need to try to be more clear. To sum up: Dimitris (talk) 12:05, 20 February 2013 (EET)
 * I agree on reducing the exposure of the sponsors as Manolis asked.
 * Yes we can keep the cost to the minimum and yes I agree we could manage it ourselves with a few more days at Ortakia, but why not get more out of the companies if we can by giving them nothing more than what we want/agree? Does it bother us if the airline gives us the free tickets without asking for something more than the mention in the site?


 * No, it doesn't bother anyone, if they agree to that. The point was, we don't need it, so we don't have to do big favors. But this is fine. Kiagiadakis (talk) 12:11, 20 February 2013 (EET)


 * +1 Jann (talk) 13:08, 20 February 2013 (EET)

Dimitris (talk) 13:28, 20 February 2013 (EET)
So I think we agree, I can see now that my mistake was that I made the first version of the sponsorship letter a bit too "commercial" offering too much space for publicity to the sponsors, and I agree that it was too much. So the new letters are here from the Alfresco letter these have been removed from the letter to the airline companies these have been removed and the text that remains is this Για τη χορηγία σας θα υπάρχει ευχαριστήρια αναφορά στην ιστοσελίδα μας.
 * Mention of the sponsor at interviews
 * Multiple banners at both exhibitions and in the talks and workshop rooms
 * Αναφορά του χορηγού με λογότυπο στην αφήσα και τα ενημερωτικά newsletters
 * Χώρο για πανό με το λογότυπο της εταιρίας στο χώρο της έκθεσης
 * Αναφορά του χορηγού σε συνεντεύξεις που θα δωθούν στο τύπο